Comments on: Hey everyone, faking a USB ID is not illegal, you know? http://mikepuchol.com/2009/09/24/hey-everyone-faking-a-usb-id-is-not-illegal-you-know/ aut viam inveniam aut faciam Thu, 10 May 2012 14:07:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mike http://mikepuchol.com/2009/09/24/hey-everyone-faking-a-usb-id-is-not-illegal-you-know/comment-page-1/#comment-530 Mike Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:48:25 +0000 http://the.firehou.se/?p=533#comment-530 Besides, the USB protocol is royalty-free, meaning I could implement it on my own hardware without the USB-IF having any say on how I choose to do it. If I want an exclusive vendor and product ID, then I need to join the club, otherwise, I'm free to use whatever IDs I want. Besides, the USB protocol is royalty-free, meaning I could implement it on my own hardware without the USB-IF having any say on how I choose to do it. If I want an exclusive vendor and product ID, then I need to join the club, otherwise, I’m free to use whatever IDs I want.

]]> By: Mike http://mikepuchol.com/2009/09/24/hey-everyone-faking-a-usb-id-is-not-illegal-you-know/comment-page-1/#comment-529 Mike Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:43:05 +0000 http://the.firehou.se/?p=533#comment-529 No, breaking a contract is not illegal. There could not possibly be a law for every individual contract out there making it illegal to break it - thus, common law states that penalties for breach of contract should be stipulated on the contract. An illicit act is that which contravenes a specific criminal law, for example, breaking DRM protected by the DMCA. If you and I agree we will use club-given ID cards, and I fake your ID card to get access to the sauna, I'm not doing anything illegal, I'm breaking the club's internal rules, to which both you and I agreed. The recourse and remedy could be monetary or simply being expelled from the club. The USB-IF runs in just that way. Do you think Apple would have played cat-and-mouse on the technical field if it had the slightest legal foothold agains Palm? No chance! No, breaking a contract is not illegal. There could not possibly be a law for every individual contract out there making it illegal to break it – thus, common law states that penalties for breach of contract should be stipulated on the contract. An illicit act is that which contravenes a specific criminal law, for example, breaking DRM protected by the DMCA. If you and I agree we will use club-given ID cards, and I fake your ID card to get access to the sauna, I’m not doing anything illegal, I’m breaking the club’s internal rules, to which both you and I agreed. The recourse and remedy could be monetary or simply being expelled from the club. The USB-IF runs in just that way. Do you think Apple would have played cat-and-mouse on the technical field if it had the slightest legal foothold agains Palm? No chance!

]]> By: taiki http://mikepuchol.com/2009/09/24/hey-everyone-faking-a-usb-id-is-not-illegal-you-know/comment-page-1/#comment-528 taiki Mon, 05 Oct 2009 05:09:09 +0000 http://the.firehou.se/?p=533#comment-528 If you're Palm, and you paid for a USB IF Vendor ID, then what you're doing is very illegal in the sense that you signed a contract with the USB IF not to spoof anyone else's ID. They're violating the contract they signed with the USB IF. Breaking signed contracts is illegal as hell. I wouldn't be surprised if the USB IF sued their asses off for their repeated middle fingers Palm has given Apple and the USB IF. If you’re Palm, and you paid for a USB IF Vendor ID, then what you’re doing is very illegal in the sense that you signed a contract with the USB IF not to spoof anyone else’s ID.

They’re violating the contract they signed with the USB IF. Breaking signed contracts is illegal as hell. I wouldn’t be surprised if the USB IF sued their asses off for their repeated middle fingers Palm has given Apple and the USB IF.

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